Doctor Grandma

MY countries of origin so far:

Netherlands — ALL — on my mom’s side.

Father’s side:

Scotland

Ireland

Wales

Germany

England

Switzerland

MY HUSBAND’S SIDE:

his mother’s side: GERMANY, ALL

his father’s side:
Germany

England

Ireland

Netherlands

written to my kids: Next week is finals week & then I have a month off. You will probably receive more e-mails from me about family history, since we don’t have money to go anywhere, that is what I plan to do w/ my time.
 
Here is a tidbit. The lady who was Indian, on dad’s side, according to Aunt Lucille & other family members, was named JULIA McNERN in her marriage to Thomas Haniford.

 In the transcribed marriage record, Thomas’ last name is mistakenly listed as HAMFORD, and Julia’s name as: JULIA MAE NORN. At first I thought, “Oh! Mae Norn is her Indian name,” but no, I got a copy of the original marriage record and it is MacNern! It ticks me off how many mistakes there are when you go to look for records. Viewing this, it is no wonder that next to NOTHING has been found in any other records, for them, besides that fact that they each lived less than 10 yrs. after they got married. We know this because their daughter Dolly was born in 1876, but all their kids are parceled out to other homes by 1880. And family stories say Julia died in childbirth or shortly thereafter.

In any case, this was the 2nd marriage for both of them. So if this Julia was Indian, she had probably married another Scots Irishman named MacNern, before marrying Tom Haniford. There are more mysteries for sure to be uncovered in our families.
 
Thomas and Julia were married NOV.8th, 1869, just about 142 years ago, in Warren County, Indiana. From that marriage, Dolly was born, the mother of Grandma Julia Black. Significantly, Dolly named her daughter JULIA, after her own (Indian) mother. The older JULIA died shortly after Dolly’s birth. Then Thomas died shortly after that, both within a 5-year span. Haven’t found either of their graves yet.
Name:Thomas Hamford
[Thomas Haniford]
[Julia MacNern]
Spouse Name:Julia Mae Norn
Marriage Date:8 Nov 1869
Marriage County:Warren
Source Title 1:Warren County Indiana
Source Title 2:Index to Marriage Record 1853 – 1920 Inclusive Vol
Source Title 3:W. P. A. Origifal Record Located: County Clerk’s O
Book:5
OS Page:337

Been reading this “Book of the Agnews” Agnew history. I bought it years ago from Ebay, turns out, it is famous. I haven’t been able to figure out any direct link to our family yet, which is the very frustrating part. I’m beginning to be resigned to it taking years if never to get resolved. But there are a number of “name” clues, etc.
 
There were 3 AGNEW brothers who seem to be the ones who left Western Scotland (Lochnaw area) and migrated to Ulster, IRELAND.
 
One of their descendants was born in Britain in 1671, and left (Ireland or Britain) for the American colonies, settling in Pennsylvania. He had 3 sons: Samuel, James (1711-1770), and John (went to Virginia). Samuel (w/ his wife Mary) & James are buried in Marsh Creek cemetary, Gettysburg, PA, & the Agnew crest is on their graves. (James is in Lower Marsh Creek, Samuel in Upper Marsh Creek). This is where the “plantation” was– Marsh Creek.
 
James lived 1711 (b. in Ireland) — to 1770 (died in PA). His sons were named John, Samuel, James II, & David. He also had 6 daughters.  **I have no clue that he is OUR ancestor, but it’s interesting. He first came over. Executors of his estate were his sons John & David. To John, David, and James, he left property, acres of land. To Samuel, he left “100 pounds of Pennsylvania currency, to be paid to him three years after my decease”. He was to be paid by David. (What did Samuel do?? Or was he just too young to inherit property?)
 
To James’ wife, Rebekkah, he left a number of things, including “2 negroes, Jack and Phoebe, to attend upon her as long as she shall live”………!! It is unusual for the slaves to be NAMED in the will. This could be a clue for someone’s African American ancestors, as it has their first names.
 
Many of these Agnews are wealthy, in the Presbyterian church, doctors, a professor, or in the iron business.
 
We of course have many JAMES’. We also have Johns. There was also a Samuel Agnew, who I haven’t been able to place elsewhere yet, who was said to be born in PA but in the house of James Agnew in OHIO in 1850 & 72 yrs. old. This is the record of (probably ) OUR James as a 9-yr-old in a house w/ James and Mary, his family, and an elder Samuel.

Another one traced back to Germany. To my kids:

Fremont and Romelia Black are Chet’s grandparents, parents of Earl Black. They marry on May 4, 1879.
Romelia had a twin sister, Rosalia. Romelia and Rosalia, the twins, were born Feb. 4, 1861 in Clark County, Illinois.
 
Romelia and Rosalia’s parents were: Pheneas (or Phineas) and Mary Ann Orndorf (sometimes spelled with 2 Fs).
 
Phineas is first married to Catherine Jennings (mar. date 1836). Catherine dies in 1854, perhaps in giving birth to George (below).
 
Phineas and Mary Ann Richardson get married, on June 22, 1856, he is either 44 or 50 years old, Mary Ann is 22.
 
In 1860, they are listed in the census in Illinois, with all these children.
John age 16, born in OHIO
William, 13
Margaret Ann, 10
Sarah C, 7
George, age 6      — From JOHN to GEORGE they are born in OHIO, probably children of Catherine Jennings.
 
James P., age 5, b. in ILLINOIS 
(Perhaps Phineas marries Mary Ann after this birth above.)……
Henry, age 3
Ida Virginia, 2
The twin girls Romelia and Rosalia are born the following year in 1861. Perhaps Pheneas and Mary got together and came to Illinois, having James, Henry, Ida and the twins………..
 
By 1870, Pheneas is gone, and Mary’s name in the census with children James (now age 15), Henry, Ida, Romelia and Rosalia, is MARY MULLEN.
 
There is a marriage record for Mary Ann Orndorff and Commodore Perry Mullen in 1866, but even PERRY is not in the household by the 1870 census. (Mary Mullen is head of the household.) 
 
Phineas is listed as born in Virginia. his father, LEVI ORNDORF was born in Virginia in 1791. He lived his entire life in   , Virginia. LEVI’s FATHER WAS:
Johannes Peter “John” Ohrndorff Orndorff (different spellings)
He immigrated from Burbach, Nordhein, Westfalen GERMANY arriving in Philadelphia at the age of 9, in 1753! 
 
Time line for the twin girls:
Born Feb. 04, 1861.
 
Romelia marries Fremont Black in 1879,
Rosalia marries William hoesman in 1880.
 
Romelia dies in the home of Earl Black in Dc. 1937.
Her twin sister Rosalia dies in Oct. 1938.
 
Romelia and Fremont are YOUR great-great grandparents. They are buried in West Lebanon, Indiana.

  Lochnaw Castle is in Scotland, was visited by my dad and many years later, my daughter and son. It is now privately owned and delapidated. If I win the lottery, perhaps we can buy it. At any rate, the Agnews traditionally were sheriffs in Lochnaw. They somehow were associated with being caretakers of this Lochnaw Castle. When my father visited it in the mid-1960s, they treated him like royalty and a lost brother from America. Well it turns out, he probably was. I have been working on family history for years now, steadily for about 2 years. THERE IS MUCH TO CHECK OUT slowly over time here, but perhaps this is our FAMILY LINE! I am so excited about this and hope I can slowly find records to validate all of this. It puts us in ULSTER, IRELAND and prior to that, LOCHNAW:

James Agnew
Birth 31 Jul 1711 in Pennsylvania, United States 
Death 2 Oct 1770 in Gettysburg, Adams, Pennsylvania, United States 

1711 Born to James Agnew and Helena Jamieson of Locknaw, Wigtownshire, Scotland

Emigrated to Pennsylvania from Ireland.  Arrived in Gettysburg, Adams County, Pennsylvania after 1739.  James Agnew II in America brought a large plantation of more than 500 acreas at March Creek, then a district in Lancaster County, later called York County, Now Adams County.  It was on a Run called Lick Run which flows into Marsh Creek.

1753 served in the Military as Company Commander of the First Rank

1756 Captain of York County Associators for defense against the Indians.

10/2/1770 Died at Hamilton Ban, York, Pennsylvania.

Birth in Adams, Pennsylvania, United States   1809
Death 1 Mar 1870 in Edina, Knox, Missouri, United States